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Timed domain crew: Business Coach in about seven minutes
Wall-clock timings for authoring a business-coaching crew in CrewDefine, loading it into Zero, and completing a first useful answer — plus what the experiment does and does not claim.
Abstract
Wall-clock measurements from a single local session (20 Aug 2026): author a crew in CrewDefine, load it into Zero, ask a coaching question, then time follow-ups on the same thread.
Scope: founder / operator business coaching (seed–Series B B2B SaaS and services). Environment: CrewDefine CLI + Zero via Docker Compose on localhost. With Zero already running, authoring through first useful answer was about 7 minutes. Install and image pull are out of scope.
The timings matter because they are cheap enough to treat the crew as a product artifact — not a one-off prompt. What you get after those minutes is a reusable division of labor, domain tools, and a UI that operators can share. Broader framing: WP-01 and Where Lab Z fits.
A narrative field note with screenshots lives at Case study: business coaching crew. This paper is the reproducible protocol version.
1. Hypothesis
If crew authoring and first useful answer can be completed in low single-digit minutes (given a running Zero and a dense seed), then the crew package is cheap enough to treat as a shippable product unit — not a research project.
Secondary claim: follow-ups on the same loaded crew are materially faster than cold generic chats that re-derive roles each time.
2. Protocol
- Zero already up via Docker Compose (localhost:3000 / :3001).
- Dense
--seedbrief in CrewDefine specifying roster, built-in tools, and three custom tools. - Interview model: Claude (
claude-sonnet-4-6). - Validate with
crewdefine validate. - Load via
./scripts/load-crew.sh(or select the bundled copy with./scripts/demo.sh business-coaching-crew). - Ask a seed-stage SaaS founder vignette in summary mode; measure SSE wall clock.
- Two follow-ups on the same thread in light mode.
Out of scope: cold install, image pull, account creation UX, scored coaching quality.
3. Results
| Step | Wall clock | Notes |
|---|---|---|
| CrewDefine interview + persona draft + emit | ~4.0 min (242s) | Dense seed; 2 confirmation questions |
| Load crew into Zero + backend restart | ~5 s | Agents + 3 plugin tools registered |
First coaching question (summary) | ~2.6 min (159s) | Full multi-agent run; Gemini→OpenAI fallback under rate limits |
Follow-up: runway + KPI (light) | ~27 s | OpenAI; used financial custom tools |
Follow-up: competitor foil (light) | ~85 s | Competitor snapshot + research tools |
Authoring → first useful answer: ~7 minutes with Zero already up.
Observed on first question: 6 agents · 23 tools on the live execution graph.
4. Interpretation
- Dense seeds dominate authoring time; sparse interviews will be slower.
- Follow-up latency (27–85s) is the operational number that matters for day-to-day use.
- Provider quirks are part of the experiment: first attempts under Gemini failed with a tool-call
thought_signatureerror; the same prompts succeeded on OpenAI. Timings must name the provider. - The experiment supports workflow cheapness, not advice quality.
Consistency mechanisms (roles, tools, modes, traces) change the failure mode: instead of an eloquent monologue that silently skipped unit economics, you get a roster that is supposed to run diagnostics, call tools, cite sources, and only then synthesize. When something is wrong, the graph shows where.
5. Limits
- n = 1 timed session.
- Does not include cold install.
- Custom KPI tables are coaching heuristics, not audited market data.
- Not a scored coaching-quality study.
6. Reproduction
# Zero checkout — Business Coach is bundled
cp .env.example .env # GEMINI_API_KEY and/or OPENAI_API_KEY
./scripts/demo.sh business-coaching-crew
# http://localhost:3000 — crew badge: Business Coach
Canonical package also in CrewDefine: crews/business-coaching-crew/. Timing scripts used for the original note: CrewDefine/scripts/case_study_*.py.
Domain-specific configuration and integration are available through implementation services. Maintained reference configurations are listed in the crew catalog.
Lab Z Working Paper 02 · August 2026 · status: working · local Docker · Claude (authoring), Gemini/OpenAI (runtime)